SEMINARIO SULLA NAVIGAZIONE

Yes in example number two you have 60% chance to move because wind is blowing into your face worst case possible.
Its simple logic you always want wind direction to blow in direction of your movment. (in your back not face, like rl ships)

This is very important to learn so we should try few more examples so everyone gets it.
I know its bit confusing and i cant explain it very good and translation can change some words but we keep trying!

Example 4:

Wind direction: North (N)
Your direction of moving South East (SE)

Example 5:

Wind direction: North East (NE)
Your direction of moving West (W)

Are the percentages always the same?
Do we always talk about BC at sea?


Le percentuali sono sempre le stesse?
Parliamo sempre della BC in mare?

If it were BC by sea we would have:

1 Example 80%
2 Example 100%


Se fosse BC  per mare avremmo:

1 Esempio 80%
2 Esempio 100%

Try examples:



Wind direction N
Ship management SW
80% percentage

Direzione vento N
Direzione nave SW
Percentuale 80%

Try examples:



Wind direction S
Ship management N
100% percentage

Direzione vento S
Direzione nave N
Percentuale 100%

I completely agree with Gazbar answers

Condivido pienamente le risposte di Gazbar

Gazbar. ha scritto:

Hello! Thanks for the lesson! It's really clear
Let's give you my answer:
Example 1: 100% success
Example 2: 80% success
Example 3: 60% because on the River, things are different

Grazie per la lazione! È molto chiara.
Passiamo alle mie risposte:
Esempio 1: 100% successo
Esempio 2: 80% successo
Esempio 3: 60% perche nei fiumi le cose funzionano diversamente.

Try examples:



Wind direction N
Ship management N
100% percentage

Direzione vento N
Direzione nave N
Percentuale 100%

Try examples:



Wind direction S
Ship management S
60% percentage

Mi controlli questi esempi?


Direzione vento S
Direzione nave S
Percentuale 60%

Do you check these examples?

Immo ha scritto:

Example 4:

Wind direction: North (N)
Your direction of moving South East (SE)

Example 5:

Wind direction: North East (NE)
Your direction of moving West (W)

Example 4: 80%

Example 5: 100%


Esempio 4
Vento direzione Nord (N)
Direzione del movimento Sud Est (SE)
Probabilità di riuscita del movimento 80%

Esempio 5
Vento direzione Nord Est (NE)
Direzione del movimento Ovest (W)
Probabilità di riuscita del movimento 100%

Hello,

For example 4:

https://prnt.sc/nmjmab

Yes you are right 80%

and for example 5:

https://prnt.sc/nmjncw

you are not its also 80%
_____________________________________________________

You are thinking of it wrong picture i posted with % is if wind is blowing N but in reality % rotate around depending on DIRECTION OF THE WIND (red arrow)

Easy to undrstand is that on oposite side of red arrow is 60% around it is 80% and everything else is 100%

Come try to draw me few compases like those i linked above. (http://prntscr.com/nmkawd) empty one

DRAW COMPAS WITH THOSE WINDS:

1.1. WIND DIRECTION: E

1.2. WIND DIRECTION: SW

1.3. WIND DIRECTION: S

1.4. WIND DIRECTION: NE

REMEMBER 60% OPOSITE OF WIND DIRECTION!


Also i heard there is guide writen by Efesto (Ex captain of la banda) i think its in italian maybe its better explained and easyer for you to get it because its in italian?

Tell me if im wrong:

Example 1:
direction: NE
Wind: N
Success: 100%

Example 2:
Direction: SE
Wind: NW
Success: 80%

Example 3:
Direction: NW
Wind: SE
Success: 60%

Example 4: ( Rivers)
Direction: NE
Wind: SE
Success: 100%

Dimmi se sbaglio:

Esempio 1:
direzione: NE
Vento: N
Successo: 100%

Esempio 2:
Direzione: SE
Vento: NW
Successo: 80%

Esempio 3:
Direzione: NW
Vento: SE
Successo: 60%

Esempio 4: (fiumi)
Direzione: NE
Vento: SE
Successo: 100%

EFESTO
http://forum.iregni.com/viewtopic.php?t=2108666

Gazbar. ha scritto:

Tell me if im wrong:

Example 1:
direction: NE
Wind: N
Success: 100%

Example 2:
Direction: SE
Wind: NW
Success: 80%

Example 3:
Direction: NW
Wind: SE
Success: 60%

Example 4: ( Rivers)
Direction: NE
Wind: SE
Success: 100%

Dimmi se sbaglio:

Esempio 1:
direzione: NE
Vento: N
Successo: 100%

Esempio 2:
Direzione: SE
Vento: NW
Successo: 80%

Esempio 3:
Direzione: NW
Vento: SE
Successo: 60%

Esempio 4: (fiumi)
Direzione: NE
Vento: SE
Successo: 100%

1 correct
2 is 60
3 correct
4 if its river and if its barge you are also correct

ezi0 ha scritto:

EFESTO
http://forum.iregni.com/viewtopic.php?t=2108666

I cant open it send me SS on FB or here i want to see it

Will anyone try

Example 1:
direction: N
Wind: E
Success: 100%


Example 2:
direction: NW
Wind: SE
Success: 60%

Example 3:
direction: W
Wind: NE
Success: 80%

Example 4:
direction: SW
Wind: NW
Success: 100%

barge:
direction: W
Wind: E
Success: 100%

Good morning,

Thank you Ezio for posting Efesto guide,
only part i read was this:

Parte prima - La Nave e la Navigazione

01. Il sistema di coordinate e la navigazione "cieca"
- La mappa nautica
- Orientamento alla cieca
- Posizione stimata

02. Vele latine vs. Vele quadre
- Le direzioni dei venti e loro efficacia
- Considerazioni

03. I movimenti (rounds)
- I rounds
- Il calcolo delle mosse
- I bonus
- I salti di vento tra le mosse

04. Le navi - caratteristiche e peculiarità
- Raffronti tra navi differenti
- Discussione su equivalenze navi

05. Le materie marittime - cosa fare prima e dopo
- La Tavola delle Materie Marittime
- Considerazioni sui vari percorsi di studio possibili e loro efficacia
- Esempio di piano di studi

06. Le rotte - Saper prendere il vento - Navigazione costiera e d'altura
- La Rotta migliore
- Navigazione d'altura
- "Sentire" il vento

07. Pianificazione di un viaggio
- Preparazione della nave
- Studio della mappa
- Pianificazione della rotta e delle vie di fuga - turni di guardia
- Paranoia?

08. In navigazione - Norme e comportamenti
- La Guardia in Comando
- "Radio" mare
- Imparare dal mare

Parte seconda - Il Combattimento Navale

09. Introduzione

10. Tattiche di ingaggio
- Cosa NON fare
- Il sopravento ed il sottovento
- La "murena"
- La forchetta alla francese
- E quella all'inglese
- 1 vs 1
- Loro sono tre e io sono uno. Ora cosa faccio?

11. Tattiche di disimpegno
- Opzioni
- Cul de sac
- Disimpegno sotto il fuoco nemico

12. Efficacia degli studi - Tattiche adattate alle skill possedute
- Non ci vedo. Sono utile?
- Affrontare il combattimento da zero skill a full skill

Parte terza - Il Combattimento Navale Tecniche Avanzate

13. Flotte
- Coordinamento
- Flotte in attacco ed in difesa. Particolarità.
- Tattiche

14. Il porto in difesa
- Calette
- Tecnica della "farandole"

15. Combattimento estremo
- Dentro la tempesta
- Pro e contro
- Tecniche

16. Lo scout
- Utilità
- Tecniche di impiego
- La staffetta

17. Cenni di strategia
- Rete informativa
- Depistaggi
- I forum
- Alleanze
- Infiltrati
- Le taverne
- Le aree di influenza

18. Conclusioni e ringraziamenti


and if he went over all of this he prety much covered everything (maybe there is mistakes as in every guide and he most prob did not write down advanced tricks) but i think he did great job. Did anyone read it? Any questions i can maybe answer?

Also i think learning with practice is best i will get you one Barge in Slatina and give it to anyone who want to sail a bit and give you simple jobs and see how it goes, also answering all the questions you maybe get while sailing around. Give me your opinions on this.

Hi Immo, yes i read it several years ago.
Basically, everything i know about navigation comes from that guide and practice

Ciao Immo, l'hoo letta diversi anni fa.
In sostanza, tutto ciò che so riguardo la navigazione deriva da quella guida e dalla pratica

Immo ha scritto:

Hello,

For example 4:

https://prnt.sc/nmjmab

Yes you are right 80%

and for example 5:

https://prnt.sc/nmjncw

you are not its also 80%
_____________________________________________________

You are thinking of it wrong picture i posted with % is if wind is blowing N but in reality % rotate around depending on DIRECTION OF THE WIND (red arrow)

Easy to undrstand is that on oposite side of red arrow is 60% around it is 80% and everything else is 100%

Come try to draw me few compases like those i linked above. (http://prntscr.com/nmkawd) empty one

DRAW COMPAS WITH THOSE WINDS:

1.1. WIND DIRECTION: E

1.2. WIND DIRECTION: SW

1.3. WIND DIRECTION: S

1.4. WIND DIRECTION: NE

REMEMBER 60% OPOSITE OF WIND DIRECTION!


Also i heard there is guide writen by Efesto (Ex captain of la banda) i think its in italian maybe its better explained and easyer for you to get it because its in italian?

Salve ragazzi, non abbiamo compreso l'esercizio che ha richiesto Immortal, praticamente dobbiamo disegnare (con la bussola che ci ha fornito http://prntscr.com/nmkawd) la direzione del vento e la percentuale corrispondente. Potete usare paint o Photoshop oppure il programma grafico che più vi facilita. Stasera ci provo Immo.


Hi guys, we didn't understand the exercise that required Immortal, we basically have to draw (with the compass that provided us http://prntscr.com/nmkawd) the wind direction and the corresponding percentage. You can use paint or Photoshop or the graphic program that makes it easier for you. Tonight I try Immo.

Also i think learning with practice is best i will get you one Barge in Slatina and give it to anyone who want to sail a bit and give you simple jobs and see how it goes, also answering all the questions you maybe get while sailing around. Give me your opinions on this.


Penso sia buona idea. Al momento penso sia importante finire il corso. Capire tutte le dinamiche della navigazione. Dopo SOLO CHI HA SEGUITO IL CORSO*, può chiedere una chiatta in prestito per fare esperienza.

* perchè si dia merito a chi partecipa attivamente




I think it's a good idea. At the moment I think it's important to finish the course. Understanding all the dynamics of navigation. After ONLY WHO HAS FOLLOWED THE COURSE *, he can ask for a barge on loan to gain experience.

* to give credit to those who actively participate

Tell me if i understand correctly

Dimmi se ho capito bene

1.1. WIND DIRECTION: E

1.2. WIND DIRECTION: SW

1.3. WIND DIRECTION: S

1.4. WIND DIRECTION: NE

Good evening,
I've red all the Efesto's guide, no question about it now.

My exercise:

wind to Est



Wind to South West


Wind to South


Wind to North Est

Very good job, tonight i have 24h non-stop playing of some game but its mostly watching and protecting structures if someone attack so it doesnt need a lot of atention so i will be able to write few lessons.

You can chose something you like, should i go over ship options? (fell free to give few lessons you would like to hear)

Per quanto mi riguarda non saprei quale argomento trattare. Potrei dire le rotte, come gestire un viaggio, cosa succede durante un combattimento, ma non voglio rischiare di avere delle lacune pregresse e quindi non capire di cosa stiamo parlando. Se vuoi proseguire per gradi noi ti seguiamo.



As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't know which topic to deal with. I could say the routes, how to manage a trip, what happens during a fight, but I don't want to risk having any gaps in the past and therefore not understanding what we're talking about. If you want to go on, we will follow you.